Forgive me if a thread of similar topic is already posted and have been discussed already. Also forgive me if I present false and/or misleading information that seems to lack research and understanding.
Hello dreamviews! I am gunzblitz (and I wish I could change my name) and I found this forum during 2009. I rarely visit this forum --only whenever my interest in LD sparks up. Last year I decided to create an account because I wanted to take LD seriously at that time, yet sadly my interest in it somehow faded. But because of what happened last week, my interest in LD sparked up again. This time I am really serious in pursuing my LD goals.
Last week, I suddenly had a successful LD out of nowhere. I was not doing anything to induce lucidity nor thinking about lucid dreaming. I never practiced reality checking seriously (because honestly, I developed a habit of doing an RC as if it was mannerism --specifically the 'pinching the nose and trying to breath' RC, without questioning reality) yet somehow, I managed to do a reality check (with the purpose of gaining lucidity, and not as a mannerism) and gain lucidity.
The only thing I did different from my sleeps before is removing the alarm I always use, since I always wake up before the designated time.
This is what happened:
I was going to bed as usual, but decided not to put any alarm since I always wake up before it rings, and slept like usual. But after what 'feels' like a few minutes, I somehow knew that I was dreaming, and decided to perform a reality check. So when I performed a reality check and was able to breath in through my nose, I 'opened' my eyes. I was still lying on my bed and saw my room exactly as how it would look like in the morning. I went out of bed, did another RC just to make sure, and went out through the window to exit the house. I then had 2 more successful lucid dreams that night (a DIELD, if I would say.)
Now before I say something else, I will tell what I know and tell information about me which might be related to LDing (and dreaming in general).
Now, I've been thinking about dream awareness, like in the situation where I was not even trying to get a lucid dream.
How do we gain awareness of a dream?
What I would like to know is how we 'know' we are dreaming.
Sleeping. We all do that.
With all those things I presented, I think the only way we would know we are dreaming (other than the awareness+RC) is that when we know we are sleeping. In WILD, we know that we sleep in order to enter the dream. In DILD, we know we dream in our sleep, and so we practice Awareness+RC. In DIELD, probably a mix of the WILD and DILD reasons.
Here's what I want to say (TL;DR):
Isn't basically knowing that we are sleeping the reason why we know we are dreaming? ADA/Self-awareness doesn't actually let us know we are dreaming. Is it not the knowledge that we slept the reason we know we dream?
Following that idea, would not autosuggestion be the best way to know you are dreaming? This would explain why a lot of people say that simply knowing that you would lucid dream is important during an attempt.
Assuming what I know about autosuggestion is correct, would not 'suggesting' that "every time you sleep, dreaming follows (essentially WILD? I am not quite sure)", be the best way to know we are dreaming?
As I mentioned earlier, supposing that what we do in real life transmits to the dream world is it possible that the knowledge of knowing that we are sleeping transmits to the dream world?
(Sorry for the lengthy post, and also a very bold first post. I am also sorry if I am not quite clear with what I am trying to convey, or if I presented this topic in a messy way. Either way, I thank you if you took your time to read this.)
Hello dreamviews! I am gunzblitz (and I wish I could change my name) and I found this forum during 2009. I rarely visit this forum --only whenever my interest in LD sparks up. Last year I decided to create an account because I wanted to take LD seriously at that time, yet sadly my interest in it somehow faded. But because of what happened last week, my interest in LD sparked up again. This time I am really serious in pursuing my LD goals.
Last week, I suddenly had a successful LD out of nowhere. I was not doing anything to induce lucidity nor thinking about lucid dreaming. I never practiced reality checking seriously (because honestly, I developed a habit of doing an RC as if it was mannerism --specifically the 'pinching the nose and trying to breath' RC, without questioning reality) yet somehow, I managed to do a reality check (with the purpose of gaining lucidity, and not as a mannerism) and gain lucidity.
The only thing I did different from my sleeps before is removing the alarm I always use, since I always wake up before the designated time.
This is what happened:
I was going to bed as usual, but decided not to put any alarm since I always wake up before it rings, and slept like usual. But after what 'feels' like a few minutes, I somehow knew that I was dreaming, and decided to perform a reality check. So when I performed a reality check and was able to breath in through my nose, I 'opened' my eyes. I was still lying on my bed and saw my room exactly as how it would look like in the morning. I went out of bed, did another RC just to make sure, and went out through the window to exit the house. I then had 2 more successful lucid dreams that night (a DIELD, if I would say.)
Now before I say something else, I will tell what I know and tell information about me which might be related to LDing (and dreaming in general).
Spoiler for Background:
Now, I've been thinking about dream awareness, like in the situation where I was not even trying to get a lucid dream.
How do we gain awareness of a dream?
Spoiler for :
What I would like to know is how we 'know' we are dreaming.
Spoiler for :
Sleeping. We all do that.
With all those things I presented, I think the only way we would know we are dreaming (other than the awareness+RC) is that when we know we are sleeping. In WILD, we know that we sleep in order to enter the dream. In DILD, we know we dream in our sleep, and so we practice Awareness+RC. In DIELD, probably a mix of the WILD and DILD reasons.
Here's what I want to say (TL;DR):
Isn't basically knowing that we are sleeping the reason why we know we are dreaming? ADA/Self-awareness doesn't actually let us know we are dreaming. Is it not the knowledge that we slept the reason we know we dream?
Following that idea, would not autosuggestion be the best way to know you are dreaming? This would explain why a lot of people say that simply knowing that you would lucid dream is important during an attempt.
Assuming what I know about autosuggestion is correct, would not 'suggesting' that "every time you sleep, dreaming follows (essentially WILD? I am not quite sure)", be the best way to know we are dreaming?
As I mentioned earlier, supposing that what we do in real life transmits to the dream world is it possible that the knowledge of knowing that we are sleeping transmits to the dream world?
(Sorry for the lengthy post, and also a very bold first post. I am also sorry if I am not quite clear with what I am trying to convey, or if I presented this topic in a messy way. Either way, I thank you if you took your time to read this.)
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