Lucid Dreaming | My WILD attempt- What went wrong?

So last night, I thought I'd attempt a WILD. I fell asleep at 1am, woke up naturally around 5am (one hour before the alarm I had set for WBTB). I decided to get up, piss and write down a quick dream journal entry on my phone of a single dream I just remembered. I tried to make sure that I wasn't too AWAKE. Then, I started the process.

I stayed as still as possible, trying to calm down my mind. I focused on just the sounds of air entering and exiting through my nose. I felt weird sensations in my body and I even started shaking (I'm gonna assume I did something incredibly wrong here because I'm sure that's not meant to happen) At first I tried to visualise my last dream, and what I would do there. My mind just kept running though, and I couldn't focus. I then started to sculpt a new dream in my head, the setting etc where I would be once I was in the dream.

It got to the point where there was a lot of hypnagogic imagery, some of it bright etc, however I never got anything SOLID that I could use to enter a dream. An important note is that all this time, I was staying completely still. (This will be important later) Eventually, I felt like I was just going in circles. There was never anything solid, and I could tell some time had passed by then. Additionally, my limbs started to hurt from staying still. At this point, I gave up and decided to just move, and check the time. It was 6am, I had passed an entire hour simply laying still and I never got close to entering a lucid dream.

This is where what I mentioned earlier becomes important. I'm a weird sleeper and I fall asleep quicker by moving around. For example, I move my arms, my legs to get comfortable. I'm sort of constantly shifting my position in the bed around. This made me tired VERY quickly as it's what I usually do to fall asleep. I thought about attempting the WILD technique here again, but it would be useless since I'd be constantly moving right? I decided to just go for MILD. In the end, I had no lucid dreams however I was able to recall about 3 dreams when I woke up around 4 hours later.

Did I do WBTB too early? Waking up at 5 would mean that I'd only slept for 4 hours at that point. Or was it the fact that I was on the edge of attaining a WILD but moving at the last moment ruined it for me? I feel as if I am doing something gloriously wrong here, because surely an hour would be more than enough or no one would be doing WILDS because of the amount of time needed.

P.S How do I add quotes/banners to my profile? I see some people have those under their replies on posts etc.

Thanks for your time!

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Lucid Dreaming | Maintaining lifetime motivation

I've been reading/watching lately (Andrew Huberman podcast, and the book "Atomic Habits") that for continuous improvement and maintenance of motivation, the emphasis should be on developing and implementing a system instead of focusing only on your specific end-goals. Reach for constant, small improvements daily, and never give up. (A 1% improvement per day yields 37x results in a year, and likewise a 1% loss of ability per day leads to almost zero at the end of a year). The improvements compound seriously over time. There is a "let down/relaxation" effect that kicks in after achieving a goal. If you instead frame your pursuit of lucidity and recall as "I'm a person who calls my dreams in exquisite detail," and "I'm a person who realizes I'm dreaming within the dream", or "I'm a lucid person, waking or dreaming, fully aware of my state and mindful of my experiences," and then you take daily actions that reinforce these choices of identity, (DJing, doing RCs, being aware, mindful, doing meditation, WBTB, trying WILD, doing MILD, etc.), and if you train yourself to love the process, to be happy in the moment of your daily actions that support your identify, then you can sustain continuous improvement throughout your lifetime. And you can be happy right now, and for life, instead of fleeting moments of happiness upon achieving a goal, then having to trudge through life until you reach another goal.

It's about deciding who you want to be, rather than what you want to do, or how you want to do it, then take actions that are consistent with your choices of identity.

Every time you act, you are voting for the kind of person you will become (or remain).

I have to say that with this shift of mindset, I find myself much more motivated, have much more energy, spend less time on procrastinating activities, and more time on productive pursuit of my chosen identities (one of which is: frequent lucid dreamer! Another is: master of dream (and waking) recall!).

Something I've learned from my own journey and from others': consistency wins. Never quit. Never never never quit. And you can love the process and the journey with the right frame of mind, ensuring that you won't quit, when your internal reward system & dopamine kicks in when you're training/practicing every day, instead of just when you occasionally achieve a goal.

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Lucid Dreaming | reality checks improved. A new way to distinguish.

Years ago I use to look at my hands, and check the lines on my hands. This was my go to for a long time. I would turn my hands back around and check if the lines changed. If they changed I was dreaming. This took advantage of a quirk in the dream space which is words and lines that are complex tend to re arrange. After doing this several times, it did fail to where the lines on my hands either didn't change anymore or where I didn't notice it. As my process was more refined I moved away from reality checks because I found a big flaw in them. They relied a lot on logic. But I noticed that logic is very changeable in the dream space along with memory of what logic is.

The mind will often fight your attempt to be lucid, and it gets good at mimicking the reality checks almost like an immune system response it adapts to what you are doing. So I found that reality checks would be unreliable long term. I needed a less labor intensive, more reliable test that wasn't based on logic.

This is when I considered my flying ability in dreams. Often the first thing I would do is start flying. I figured that the best way to distinguish for certain without a doubt that I was in a dream, was simply put my arms out in front of me and fly. If I could fly, it was obviously a dream. As I have not learnt to fly in real life. Yet ;)

Anyway this test proved to be the most reliable thing I can think of. Often the dream space is so real and convincing that without that flying test, I would be skeptical if I was dreaming. But once I do the flying test, there is no doubt anymore, no matter how real my mind has made it. I think for me personally, this has trumped any chance of getting confused in the dream about if it's real.

The reason this works so well is it's not based on logic, but on faith ability. When I am awake I never try to fly because I know that would be a complete failure, so this is how it is different from traditional reality checks. It is not so much a reality check as a confirmation about where you are. Often when I go to do the flying test, I already a little skeptical enough to go into lucidity. This is about the same suspicion you have before you do a reality check.

Example
I wake up from my bedroom and I go to the bathroom. I switch the bathroom light on. I struggle with it. I go into my lounge room and flick the light on there. Nothing happened. No light coming on. I thought for a moment is something wrong with the fuse box or a black out. Then the idea hit me. When you are dreaming sometimes light switches don't work. (I attribute my mind recognising this only to the fact of study and observation, otherwise it wouldn't be a concept). At this point I am skeptical, but it's not certain because it 'feels' exceptionally real. The realness of this experience always shocks me. It doesn't feel like a dream at all. This is the time I try the flying test, I take that leap of faith (Already suspecting it's a dream) and I put my arms out and do the flying thing, I find myself hovering at my front lawn. That is when it is confirmed, you are definitely in that "space". This is where that feeling of complete freedom hits you. I'm still not use to it. It feels very free. After having this experience, you basically need it in your life on a regular basis. It becomes like oxygen to you.

As you work through your dream experiences, you are working on yourself personally. It will change you. For me I cannot do regular reality checks. maybe I might go back to them again, as an experiment, but I don't really feel the need to go that much deeper into them, other than this philosophical analysis.

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Lucid Dreaming | Lucid Dreaming Inspiration Media

Hi all,

I found a2011 post around this topic as I was writing this, so I'll include stuff from there here in the initial list...but the goal is to watch of dreaming-related media to support MILD. That's how I justify putting this topic in 'Attaining Lucidity'.

Anyway, what are some books/shows/movies that focus lucid dreaming or dreaming-related ideas that you've enjoyed? Why?

Total Recall (1990) - memories, alternate realities
Groundhog Day (1991) - 'recurring dream'
What Dreams May Come (1998) - death as a dream
The Matrix (1999) - alternate reality
Vanilla Sky (2001) - exploration of dream world
Waking Life (2001) -exploration of dream world
Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind (2004) - memories
The Good Night (2007) - dream characters, alternate realities
Avatar (2009) - alternate body, mind transfer
Inception (2010) - exploration of dream world
Sucker Punch (2011) - alternate world
Stranger Things (2016) - alternate world, telekinesis

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Lucid Dreaming | Chat gtp rem diction ideas using Lora scripts.

"Here is an example of how LoRA scripts could be used for REM detection via eye tracking:

Begin by collecting a large dataset of eye movement data from individuals in various stages of sleep along with a full eeg for each person involved with the dataset.
Preprocess the data to remove any artifacts and filter out unwanted noise.

Use the preprocessed data to train an AI model to recognize patterns of eye movement that correspond to REM sleep. when 25% of eeg detect rem with corresponding rem videos 25% threshold, all the way up to 100% when both video of eye movements and egg are at 100% rem is almost a given. The final product shuld include both the eeg readout and rem videos from the dataset. So rem detection with eye tracking will be accurate.

Fine-tune the model using LoRA scripts to improve its accuracy and performance.
Deploy the model in real-time using eye-tracking devices to detect when an individual enters REM sleep. Remember the model needs to associate both the eeg readout from the dataset along with video from the dataset, so real time rem detection with eye tracking only can be accurate. Integrate the REM detection system into a sleep monitoring platform to provide users with information about their sleep patterns and overall sleep quality.

This is just one example of how LoRA scripts could be used in the context of REM detection via eye tracking. The specific implementation would depend on the details of the dataset, the eye-tracking hardware being used, and other factors.".

I was messing around with Chat gpt, and thought I'd ask questions about Lora scripts for rem detection by using a dataset. I'm not 100% an expert but unlike the units years ago that tried to do rem detection with poor eeg readouts on the end user. This idea chat gtp gave seems quite brilliant to me: train the ai with a full high end eeg on a large dataset along with all the associated eye movements from the same dataset then assign a percentage of rem diction from similar eye movements to eeg until the eye movements and eeg are at 100%. It seems quite a good idea to me. Anyway anyone else think what chat gtp wrote made any sense? Or is this just nonsense?

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Lucid Dreaming | The Voidway Explorer's Incubation Practice

Hey everyone. If you know or don't know, I have a pretty fast paced PR to manage. It's been active and successful as of late, and I have plans to make it even more huge. The thing is however, the majority of my PR dreams are non lucid. While yes, these PR dreams are inferior as I have less control over my decisions, they can work from time to time and if I excluded my PR to only lucid dreams, it would barely go anywhere. How do I do all of this? Incubation. Not somebody else's incubation practice though. I have made my own, specifically designed for myself. However I think that others may be able to use this incubation practice to their advantage, as did I.



To put it simply, my entire incubation practice orbits around the basic idea of Associating. I do not incubate until something comes up in my day to day life that involves my lucid dream goals. (I.e, my Persistent Realm) This includes:
- Satanism
- Cultism
- Ankha (Animal Crossing Character)
- Lucidity in general
- Concept of the Multiverse

The reason I choose to not start my practice until these things are brought up, is not only because it's easier for me, because I believe my brain finds it easier to "start" something when using a key. A specific highlight rather than generally everything. For example, I get lucidity just about always from my old job in construction. I'm a construction worker in a dream? My subconcious uses that as a base and dream signs come flooding in. This is because of my Schemas. Which, you guessed it, use Associations as well. This simplifies the process and cuts out the filler.


So, a concept associated with my PR is brought up, and I start incubation. First, I use Visualization as a mnemonic, similarly to MILD to pre-construct the most likely scenarios for my PR, from my previous PR Dreams (if you're trying this practice without any lucid dreams or goals to your name, you could make one up). For example, I had a dream once where Satan was high, and mocking me for not being able to accomplish what I want. He lied about a character betraying me and being part of the cult. In my next visualization I not only visualized the probable path the PR would go, but outcomes that wouldn't exactly make sense, yet could be fixed and set back on track. This practice of creating false, self-fixing schema issues "awakens" the association that if things go off track, they can naturally mend themselves. Going on course, rather than straying. (this "schema fixer" doesn't always work yet it's a decent thing to set up)

Then, I do what I like to call "Linking". I imagine this can be difficult to understand for some people. Basically, I'm not visualizing scenes. I set my mind back and forth between different events that work as just concepts in my mind. For example,
Event A: I'm in a dream. I don't visualize, I don't think about where I am, and I don't care about what it is. I'm just holding the concept of being in a dream.
Event B: A strong path that I visualized beforehand occurs. I am not visually imagining the scene. It just exists.

I switch my mind back and forth between these 2 events. I hold the concept of being in a dream world, then I hold the concept of whatever goal I may have. Back and forth. Over, and over... First in a dream, then, my PR goal for the night is complete. From my experience, this practice directly sets schemas together perfectly.

If I don't feel ready, I repeat Visualization and Linking until I do. Usually I feel decently after completing my first link, and I move on with my day until something's brought up again. Then I visualize, and I link. When it's time to go to bed, I may or may not have a PR dream incubated.

It's not always perfect, I slip up a lot. Had a non lucid PR dream where an important character just burst into flames, and came back a day later like nothing happened. I didn't consider that dream canon, and desirably my PR dreams should be lucid. However, this incubation does me just fine.

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Lucid Dreaming | daily techniques for lucid dreams

Cool forum It seems to be goldmine on everything lucid! hi I was just interested in trying to get my dreams as lucid as possible and have heard about lucid affirmations and such people do throughout the day which helps trigger or enhance lucid dreams at bedtime and wondered if there was a specific one or bunch of these types of techniques with the highest success rate? if any.

Thx all. :nodyes:

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Lucid Dreaming | Checkpoint: Am I in the right direction?

I've been practicing LD on and off for about 7 years now, with semi serious practice for the last two years, yet I felt like I made no progress. Long story short, I spent all this time chasing a shortcut. When i realized this, I wasn't even mad. I just laughed. This shortcut I was trying to do would supposedly help me skip learning the fundies so i could get to the good stuff, but I think i'd just be where I want if I just did the fundies there and then. Regardless, the time I spent wasn't wasted as I did learn many things about lucid dreaming, and I'm ready to try and do it the right way. I've been doing it for a couple days already and wanted to confirm if I'm on the right track.

As I understand it, There's 4 Fundamental Pillars of Lucid Dreaming, and I've organized them in order of importance roughly:

# 1 - Dream Recall

- Ability to remember dreamed experiences. Resolving to remember and record future dreams is basically resolving to be more present for them to enter the memory in the first place. This means that training dream recall also improves dream vividity and duration. The longer a dream lasts, the more likely it is for one to become lucid in it, thus also improving induction skill. I think this is why some people say that all you need is dream journaling if you really didn't want to do anything else.
- Key Skills - Memory, Awareness
- Training

Dream Journaling, duh

# 2 - Lucid Dream Induction

- Ability to induce lucidity within a dream.
- Key Skills - Prospective Memory, Awareness
- Training
1. DJ
2. Induction techniques
3. Reality Checks - PM, awareness
4. Meditation - I was always wondering how meditation helped LD, but I think I get it now. As lucidity is really just awareness of your current state, doing something to train your awareness IRL (like meditation) would probably increase the chances of this coming about.
5. Prospective Memory Training (PMT)

# 3 - Dream Stabilization


- Ability to keep the dream stable so as not to end prematurely.
- Key Skills - Focus
- Training
- Rubbing hands together - Touch
- Spinning around - Proprioceptic and vestibular
- Narrating observations made with other senses - sound + others



# 4 - Dream Control

- The ability to control the dream.
- Key skills - Focus, awareness
- Training
- Revelation technique - Visualize the construct. Once the image is clear, imagine it hidden and either turn to face it or reveal it. Could also work more easily by closing my eyes, then opening.

So, You improve dream recall to improve the quality of your dreams and to make sure you can remember the experiences. Then, you become proficient at attaining lucidity. After lucidity is something easy to come by, you can focus on stabilizing the dream so it doesn't end prematurely. Then and only then should you focus on dream control. The logic for this is that, even if you could, you wouldn't want to control an unstable dream, so stabilization is priority. But, you'll probably want to be experienced with it. In order to be, you need to be able to induce lucidity rather frequently, which itself requires some other things.

Daily Training
I caught myself on the 3rd day wondering if I should just only try techniques again(WILD WBTB, etc). Then I remembered that I've only given these things 3 days to work. I'm willing to be patient, and I'm trying to practice consistency in other aspects of my life. ADHD isn't making this any easier but damn haha

Record Dream

Perform at least 10 RCs throughout the day
Check for dream signs, check for other abnormalities, then perform state tests regardless of conclusion (I think i'm in reality, but just to be sure...) Ideally performed as a response to an abnormality or a dream sign
Some state tests I do
Checking for text consistency (Look away, look back)
Nose check (try to Breathe through closed nostrils)
Finger count
Gravity check (Do I feel particularly light or heavier than normal)
Tech Check (Is technology working as expected or at all)
Power Check (Do I have abilities some would consider unnatural)

Meditation
10 minute meditation. Slow, deep breaths. Count to 10. Inhales are Odd, Exhales are Even. Once 10 is reached, reset and count that cycle. (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10.) One. (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10.) Two. etc When you notice thoughts going astray, gently bring attention back to breaths. Nudge your mind back to breathing, but don't try to kill the thought right away. let it end on its own. If it's a particularly nasty thought, simply recognize that it's something you're thinking about and resolve to give it time later, or right after meditation. I notice that most of the anxiety and fear behind most thoughts is ambiguity, and that simply setting aside time for them really helps quelling them when they come up. The awareness of your typical mindscape and your breath will help train awareness in general, and it's this state of awareness we want to bring into our dreams.

PMT
I've had issues with this. I don't really go outside, so I usually never hit any of these goals, but I'll try to adapt it for home life. It's also kinda hard, but that's actually good because it's immediate feedback that it needs work.
I'll start with trying to hit 1 daily goal for 7 days, then increase this if it's too easy, eventually working up to 5 goals a day.

Nightly Stuff
Just techniques. sometimes I won't do them but when I do, it's WBTB + something else usually. I've had success with WILD in the past so i guess I'll just do that.
After alarm goes off, I'll wake up, get out of bed, drink some water and count to 30. Then, I'll lay back down and try to WILD. My anchor will be my breaths and counting them just like the meditation.

And this is how I understand it. Am I onto something? I think i am :}

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Lucid Dreaming | It's Funny How the Success Varies

I mentioned here before that when I first found out about LDing I had a sort of beginner's luck, where the reality checks and at least once just having the topic on my mind led to lucid dreams quite quickly.

My last fully lucid dream was near the start of this year. It was a long and quite vivid dream and I eventually got lucid when I was talking to a DC about why a school lesson kept moving location all the time, which is a big DREAM SIGN for me. I had a dream about four months later where I just seemed to know it could be a dream (out of a window, thought if it was a dream I could fly, but gave up because it seemed too dangerous), but didn't manage to do any good RCs. I'd call that one semi-lucid.

Since I started posting on dreamviews just under a month ago, I tried to really ramp up the frequency and intent of my RCs, I tried to read a bit of this site every day, and I've even changed my computer's wallpaper to remind me about lucid dreaming and what to do when I get lucid. Maybe I'm impatient, but so far I've had just about no luck at all with these new techniques.

During my dreams, my critical thinking seems to be bad at the moment - I know in the past I've managed to ask a lot more questions in my dreams. I find it odd how it comes and goes. Anyone got any ideas about this? I've noticed when I start to enter a hypnogogic state whilst talking to myself in my head, sometimes logic seems to completely break down and I start thinking nonsense sentences. It might be something like "If I can just tighten that bolt ...then the elephant will be happy ...through the mail box." I feel at each instant like I'm reasoning logically, but it's like the start of the sentence escapes my memory as new parts of it form. Is that typical of hypnogogia?

I've very occasionally had dreams that are almost as incoherent and illogical as that. Obviously I need the logical part of my brain to be as awake as possible to get the best chance of lucidity. Any idea how I can improve that? Does fresh air help?

I also wonder whether stress and poor sleep quality could be holding me back at the moment. I've been trying for a WILD almost every night. The trouble is, although my dream recall is pretty good, lately I've been unable to remember the beginning of any of my dreams after attempting a WILD - so for all I know, I could have had lots of LDs but just not remember them! I just wish I could get up early enough or sleep late enough to try for more DEILDs. It's just too busy and noisy around here to have much luck with that unfortunately. I do remember when I was younger, I think before I even knew about LDing, I concentrated on a dream I'd woken up from and did manage to resume it, so I know I can do it in the right circumstances.

Am I on the right track or could I be trying too hard? Shall I just give it a few months and see what happens? I know you can be doing or thinking about something every day and it can take months or years for that to show up in your dreams, but sometimes I wonder how much my subconscious is actively working against me here.

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Lucid Dreaming | Am I doing something wrong?

Hello, Im pretty new to lucid dreaming, and I know it takes a good amount of time to actually attain one, but I want to make sure I'm doing everything right.

I am Doing RC multiple times a day, at least 10, basically whenever I think of lucid dreaming (which is nearly constant now), and I'm not simply just doing the actions, but I am asking myself if I am really dreaming, and looking around seeing if anything is off. I also do a simple statement like "next time I dream, I will look at my hands and realize I'm dreaming". Also, I'm trying to get good at ADA, which so far, has not only helped me with a calmer state, but in the future, hopefully allow me to successfully DILD. I am also dream journaling, however, for the past 2 nights, I haven't been able to remember any of my dreams, almost like I haven't journaled at all before. Before those two nights I was having multiple, pretty vivid dreams that I was able to recall well. That however is now why I am making this post. I'm sure I'm just having some sort of dry spell.

The thing is, I want to know if there is anything I should do? WBTB and any sleep manipulation techniques probably aren't the best for me, considering I have schooling.

When I meditate, or do ADA I try to go down a list sort of, clearing out all of my thoughts, first: I listen to the air, or my breathing. Second: I feel how things are that are touching me, clothes, me walking, etc. Third: I look around me, observe little details, such as a piece of tarnishing on metal, a pebble on the ground, or perhaps a stain on a wall.
I want to know if I will eventually be able to rely on DILD and ADA to lucid dream, basically whenever I want. I know that it will probably take me at least a year to get to that point, but I am willing to do that.
Is there anything else I should incorporate to possible help me improve my chances in lucid dreaming, I haven't had any yet, but I just want to make sure that I'm doing everything right.

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Lucid Dreaming | Changing Sleep Location to Influence Ones Subconscious (for Lucidity and Scene)

I think this topic may have been covered in some old threads. But I know the admins are not fond of necro threading. Plus I have a personal side trick that I've found to be very useful.

The core idea is pretty obvious. Your bed should probably just be your bed. For sleep and intimacy. That is what your brain is going to associate your bed with. Personally I have found it extraordinarily useless to go elsewhere when I want to lucid dream. So basically during WBTB I migrate to the den couch. This in and of itself signals to my subconscious (SC) "it's lucid dreaming time". As opposed to "regular sleep time". If you've never tried it or even thought about it. Give it a try. Like any technique don't expect instantaneous results. It takes time to retrain your SC.

The other weird little trick that works brilliantly for me, is leaving a small waking reality thing on the kitchen counter and leaving some night lights on. With the intention of finding myself lucid, checking for the night lights being off, and retrieving the item. Which historically has been a nicely made and custom magic wand. Because you know - why not. It's magical ;)

It's well known that electronic things are often disabled in a dream. And leaving out an item with the intent of retrieving it makes it more likely you will start to dream about being in the position you left off in, in waking reality. Then when you open your eyes and sanity check the lights, off means dreaming. And voila - you're lucid. Essentially I'll perceive I've awoken from a dream, but I'm really still dreaming. Which on another forum we dubbed "In Not Really Asleep Lucid Dream" or INRALD.

From there any number of scene change techniques can be used if your looking for variety. With a little G, this is pretty fool proof for me. But again it takes some time to train the SC.

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Lucid Dreaming | Increasing quality of dream recall and WILD question?

So I've been in and out of the lucid dreaming community for a while. A few times I've come close but I've never commited. Recently I've begun to dream journal again and my dream recall has increased exponentially over the past few days. On the 1st day I could remember 2 short dreams. On the 2nd day, one incredibly long and detailed dream inwhich I questioned the logic of somethings inside the dream but failed to go lucid. On the 3rd night I remembered 3 dreams, 2 short and 1 long. On the 4th night no dreams were recalled but last night I recalled 4 dreams! 2 of which were long and detailed, and the other 2 medium - short. My question would be how do I increase the quality of my dream recall? And from there, how do I actually go lucid within the dreams? :D I've been doing reality checks but have been slacking recently as I was more focused on awareness throughout the day. Most of my dreams are 1st person. I have not yet noticed a constant within my dreams.

On a side note, I did attempt WILD along with WBTB but I could not fall asleep remaining still. I tried to envision my self rolling off the bed, or sort of creating the dream I wanted to fall into once I was asleep but after staying still for a while my body just began to hurt? And I had to constantly breathe harder as I was struggling to breathe a little. I didn't feel any resistance when I moved though.

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Lucid Dreaming | The only method that works for me to have LDs every night (after 10 years of trying EVERYTHING)

I tried everything. Including tons of supplements and methods. Nothing came close to the method I'm going to share now which I discovered partly by luck. It's the only way I found after 10 years of trying everyday, to have long stable Lucid Dreams every night.

Pros: No WBTB or sleep manipulations, no supps, no equipment (only a dream journal, but can be done even without that).
Cons: Takes 1-2 hours of practice a day.

The method (3 part):

Part 1 (this is the part that makes you know you are dreaming):

Recall your dreams. But for 45 minutes at least. Fill many pages each morning (If you write it down). At first it can be challenging to recall anything, but don't stop trying for at least 15 minutes and write any detail that comes to mind including feeling or the atmosphere felt. Be stubborn. Eventually you will work it up to recalling amazing amounts of detail each morning. You want to be writing down your dreams for 45 - 60 minutes, as I said, filling pages upon pages.

The result of this practice is very interesting - You will find out, as you recall dreams, that you do things in your dreams that can only mean you know it's a dream. For example doing dangerous things without being to scared. You will find out that you are already lucid dreaming a lot! But there is no intent or pre planning to your dreams nor is the dreams regularly stable and long. This is the purpose of Part 2 and 3.

Part 2 (this part makes the dreams long, intense and stable):

Waking Lucidity. Go on 45 - 60 minutes walks (I guess it can be also done without walking) and while you walk and look around, watch your thoughts. Each thought is like a little dream. You "fall asleep" into a thought but then you get lucid as you identify it as a thought. This is what some people call Meditation, or "stopping the internal dialogue". It involves deliberate practice of being aware of your thoughts, moods, feelings etc. The interesting thing is that this hour of focus reflects in your dreams as spectacular lucidity, stableness (like one hour long stable lucid dreams). But there's still one thing missing - Intent. Part 3 covers that.

Part 3 (This part will bring purpose to your LDs):

This is the easiest part. You need to have a plan for when you get lucid. It could be flying, or looking at your hands like in Castaneda's teachings. Have a mission and remember that mission. Remind yourself several times a day what your mission is for when you have an LD. When you wake up and start recalling your dreams always ask yourself: "Did I fly (or whatever your mission is)?

That's it. Have fun LDing like crazy. And BTW, when you do follow this method, there is no point in the dream when you suddenly understand it's a dream, but rather it's just totally obvious to you that it's a dream. No need to even reality check, though it doesn't hurt to do so before you jump off a cliff xD.

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Lucid Dreaming | Reality checks for those who can't realize reality?

What a title! That's three "real"s, count em. There's a lot of reality check threads open but this I feel is a unique enough situation to be considered worthy of a new thread.

Have you ever tried to perform a reality check before and think to yourself "...I really can't tell...".? I have before. May it happen to people by psychospiritual issues or whatever else, you just cannot determine what is "real" and what "isn't real". Most dreamsigns don't work because you see coincidences and events that seem impossible on the daily. Looking at your hands and you sometimes see extra fingers in the "real" world. Text warps sometimes in the "real" world.
This all sucks. So, I ask you all: are there any reality checks you can think of/developed which would help the non-grounded-in-realities? I have a few.

Already known
Nose pinching test
It's hard to emulate fake breathing in the real reality you inhabit. If you pinch your nose in the "real" world, you won't be able to breathe. That is fact. You always have your nose on you and you always are breathing, so this is a very reliable method.

Light switch test
This one is much less reliable because you may not always have access to a light switch, dream or not. If you live your entire life in your room and never leave the house however this should be just fine lol. Just keep switching the lights on and off, in a dream the lights won't change but your "real" ones will. Like all reality checks, make it a habit.


Developed myself (i think)
T2F (Try 2 Fly)
This is pretty straight forward. At any point in the day or dream, ask yourself "Am I dreaming?" as usual, but this time always say "YES"! After that, try and fly. No don't actually jump out of your chair and do it, just see if you can lift yourself up. In dreams for me, at least, basically no physical action is needed for getting up and flying. All you need to do is believe you can and use a little energy in yourself. So this one's actually quite easy in my experience. Again; hard to emulate physically flying in the real world.

With that being said, do any of you have any other suggestions? I'd like to broaden what I can do.

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Lucid Dreaming | Use of Lecithin to Increase Dream Recall & Lucidity

So, in my exploration of baking bread I have stumbled upon something called "lecithin". It is a natural food product that comes from sunflowers, soy, eggs, and other foods. People use it in bread-making for the emulsifying effect. However, I immediately noticed that it naturally contains a type of choline (phosphatidylcholine). This sparked my interest, as acetylcholine is a neurotransmitter highly involved in dreaming - and higher amounts of it in the brain are strongly linked to lucid dreaming.

Not only is lecithin used for baking, but also as a supplement. People add it to shakes for brain health, enhancing memory, and as a general nootropic. I am curious to see how this product affects dreaming - vividness, recall, and lucidity.

I'm guessing this is going to be much less potent than Galantamine, Huperzine-A, and/or Alpha-GPC, as those supplements use acetylcholine (the type that goes straight to your brain), or block it from being naturally used up. For that same reason, I avoid those drugs as they mess with the natural order of things/the chemistry within the brain. Our foods don't typically contain this type of choline.

I like the idea of lecithin because it's a natural food product, the natural food form of choline (not modified to be the type that affects the brain more directly), and therefore, lets our body do the work to determine how much would get converted into brain-friendly acetylcholine. I feel like that may make it a safer supplement for healthy people to take. At the same time, it would provide our bodies (and brains) with all the choline it needs to be at peak performance - as our diet can often be lacking. Much like taking a protein shake when trying to build muscle.

Thoughts? Anyone have experience with it?

Here is a link I found from another thread from long ago that discussed lecithin and its use with dreaming:

https://www.dreamviews.com/attaining...am-recall.html

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Lucid Dreaming | How to question reality?

Welcome to my third thread! Sorry if I seem annoying but I really hope y'all's advice will finally get me going with my LD practice.

Lately I've been thinking about which method I should apply to attain lucidity. I've concluded that adopting a "lucid mindset" is the way to go for DILDs. This mindset consists of frequently questioning reality and doing reality checks. The problem is, I can't seem to question anything around me at all. It's like I'm always sure of the fact that I'm awake and so my reality checks become useless.

So my question goes: how do I question reality effectively?

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Lucid Dreaming | My progress (not)

Hello everyone! It's me again lol

I'm making this thread cuz I've been struggling with the advice I got from my previous thread, so I'm once again looking for guidance.

I was told to improve my memory skills and put into practice my critical reflective attitude by doing reality checks whenever I encounter something dreamlike. All of that Is pretty straightforward. What I can't get right is the other piece of advice I got which was to imagine I'm in a dream in order to cultivate the feeling of not knowing wheter or not I'm dreaming. Sadly I haven't found a practical way to do this. Any tips?

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Lucid Dreaming | Need help with the blinking reality check

Is anyone here familiar with the blinking constant reality check? I ask cuz I don't think I understand how to conduct it and I'm looking for some guidance. Should I just be mindful of my blinking? Should I constantly ask myself whether I have to blink or not? How can I become critically aware of my blinking?

Thanks in advance, and sorry for my broken English lmao

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Lucid Dreaming | Help! Mantras Need Some Zest!

Slam down some awesome or funny mantras to break the boredom that can be MILD.

Think of a mantra that is new, awesome, and perhaps funny as hell.

I start us off:
1) Dream, Dream, Dream your boat swiftly off the edge. Over you go into the lucid flow. Now go get a tale.

2)Gonna get you robot, just wait, dreams a coming, yep dreams a coming, then I will teach you to steal my Kit Kat bar.

Next...

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Lucid Dreaming | Doing dild effectively

Is this a good strategy? RC when I see dreamsigns in my life and as I go to sleep affirm I’ll do that when they occur in my dreams

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